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GIGGING BANDS: The New York Experience by; Chvad SB. 08/29/2007
So you’re in a band and you think you’re ready for NYC?

GIGGING BANDS: The New York Experience

So you’re in a band and you think you’re ready for NYC? Here’s what you can expect… According to Martin’s Atkin's new book, “TOUR:SMART” there are anywhere from 741 to 1235 bands playing in New York City every week. As I’m writing this, on a Friday evening, there are 374 bands playing in NYC (according to http://www.going.com) and that isn’t even tapping into the plethora of shows that didn’t bother to post on the site.


There’s FIERCE competition in NYC.

There’s FIERCE competition in NYC and in response to that, a lot of promoters create nothing more than what I like to call “meat grinder events”. Every club in NYC wants a party every night of the week and they want people buying drinks ALL NIGHT. BRING IN THE BANDS! When you come to play a show in NYC one of the first things to expect is no money. It’s common practice in NYC for promoters to only pay you IF you bring in at least 10 to 15 paying customers that ask specifically for your band. Bring in 15 or more, you get half the door amount for those patrons. Bring in 14… NOTHING. Did I mention you’re also playing with anywhere from 6 to 9 other acts on the same night? Now the promoter can call it a FESTIVAL and thus a PARTY. Great right?


You’re gonna have a TON of people there to see you rock the fuck out right? Wrong, wrong wrong.

You’re gonna have a TON of people there to see you rock the fuck out right? Wrong, wrong wrong. Here’s how NYC rolls, Band #1 brings in 15 of their friends to see them play. Band #1 finishes. Band #1 leaves. Friends of Band #1 leave. Band #2? Rinse and Repeat. The people you bring are the ONLY people that will be there to see you play. Some people would like to accuse all the others acts on the bill for being total asses for not hanging out and supporting the other bands. Honestly, 75% of the time you’d probably be right but even if all the bands wanted to stay and party the whole fucking night with you THEY CAN’T. This is NYC and space is something you find between people ears but NOT in clubs. 10 bands worth of gear won’t fit in most small clubs so when you’re done playing, you need to get the fuck off the stage and out of the club. Most promoters won’t even allow bands to load in more than an hour before they are supposed to be on stage. There’s no room. The club and promoter make out great though. Every band brings in a few people, 8 out of the ten bands won’t break 15 people because everyone they know is out at one of the other 374 shows going on in the city that night. Meanwhile the promoter keeps most of the door and the club gets all of the bar. You can make money with merchandise right? You can’t sell merch because there isn’t any room for merch and if there is room, it’ll be in the part of the club that everyone avoids because it smells like shit and piss… literally. Sounds pretty bad right? It can be. How can it all be avoided? COMMUNITY.


It smells like shit and piss… How can it all be avoided?

Contact the bands on the bill that play directly before AND after you. Trade promotional materials and share your audience. Hang out a LITTLE longer before the next band arrives, share gear if possible and there’s more room for everyone (the promoter can’t kick out as quick either if that’s your amp on the stage). 45 people drunk off their asses trying to dance through your set is a hell of a lot cooler than your 15 buddies from work (no offense to work buddies of the world). Hell, some of them might even like your stuff. Wanna survive in NYC? Know people! Makes friend on message boards, call bands, whatever… just know this: If you don’t know anyone in NYC when you play, stay the fuck out… New Yorkers eat their young.

-Chvad SB, t.o.t.s.

-Chvad SB plays in the NYC based bands THINGS OUTSIDE THE SKIN (www.outside-the-skin.com), Mr. 1234 (www.mr1234.com) and The Qualia (www.thequalia.com). He's also currently responsible for running the current incarnation of www.darksonus.com.
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