Saemskin
has been a Darksonus regular for
years, and through these years he
has honed a skill for brooding sounds
and rhythmic beat driven madness
ala Ad Noiseam or Hands label artists.
He had released Simile for Murder
a 7 track soundscape which has ever
since been gaining momentum, being
reviewed by such sites as ReGen,
Side-Line, Smother, and Heathen
Harvest. Here it is, a year later,
and I thought it would be good to
get the thoughts of Saemskin on
the past and future of this project. |
DS:
Good afternoon, Josh.
You are the driving force behind Saemskin.
Is that how you pronounce it? Like Same-skin?
Josh/Saemskin:
Yup, that’s it!
DS:
Weren't
you releasing under J. Conley before
Saemskin? Why the switch?
Josh/Saemskin:
Hmm,
I didn't think anyone paid attention
to that at all. The stuff I put out
as J. Conley was my beginning to making
music, and the majority of it was simply
an ejaculation of noise and excitement
for just being able to make music with
software, and as such was mixed horribly
and had next to no cohesion in and between
tracks. After the tremendous learning
experience of my demo 'Supplication',
which grounded me to the fact that my
mixing was really very far from anything
labeled good, I assembled a grouping
of 3 songs in the "When I Was Scared"
series. I realized that I did have the
ability to follow a theme at least in
my own mind. As I progressed in my ability
to write and assemble a cogent piece
of music I wanted to distance myself
from my initial offerings, and the best
way I could think to do that was a name
change.
DS:
What
does Sameskin mean? Where does that
come from?
Josh/Saemskin:
It's
actually a culmination of 2 things.
I wrote a poem a long time ago and a
line that was one of my favorites both
in intensity of intent and gruesome
implications goes like this "...once
wrapped by the same skin that pulls
taut my face...." to paraphrase.
The clincher was way back when the internet
was in its infancy, and I was an extremely
hostile person, imagine that, right?
I was subscribed to the Epilogue Skinny
Puppy mailing list as callowpuppy. My
attitude got me banned when I invited
the entire list to come to Toledo and
fight me, but I still had to be on the
cusp of the happenings of all things
Puppy. So I resubbed as saemskin. Thus
my moniker was born, but I had not thought
to start calling myself that until much
later though.
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was an extremely hostile person,
imagine that, right?
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DS:
Did you get anyone
to come fight you? I would be interested
in kicking your ass.
Josh/Saemskin:
Unfortunately
no. It seems the anonymity of the Internet
has beaten me again. I'm sure we could
arrange a bout betwixt the two of us.
I'll warn you though; I've been training
5 days a week for the last 3 months.
Better make it before I start taking
Jiu Jitsu classes then. Ha!
DS:
Well,
I’ve been eating radioactive spiders
every day…or something.
Josh/Saemskin:
Make
sure the 5 people who will be reading
this know that you're really just in
love with my great percussive technique
and beating on me won’t take that
away, chump. You'll have to live with
#2 status until I retire.
DS:
I…uh…
Josh/Saemskin:
But
seriously, my brother and I discovered
a technique for getting people to back
down when they really don’t want
to fight but are acting like they do.
If you go red-zone right away, they'll
usually back down. The person to get
the maddest the fastest wins. Unless,
as I say, they really do want to fight
you, then you're fighting...
DS:
A
Simile for Murder…I first read
that as A Smile for Murder, but now
I see my mistake, I like A Simile for
Murder much better. It has been out
for a year or so, can you tell me what
inspired this release? How do you feel
about the release today?
Josh/Saemskin:
Well
I had some material I thought was pretty
good, and my ability was to the point
I felt it was time. When I began to
tell people that I was releasing an
album, I couldn't back away from it
even though I realized that I was pretty
far from ready when I sat down and looked
at the actual minutes of tracks I had
that was good enough to put my name
on. It's difficult to just have the
courage to put yourself out in front
of anyone who wanted to listen. I take
a lot of pride in everything I do that
involves creation. Even in my day job
as a design engineer, I see everything
I do as art and try and put my stamp
on it in that fashion, so it was hard
for me to stop mixing & fixing and
just be done already. Some parts of
that album make me cringe, but I'm extremely
pleased with what I've done and am glad
I did it. I just wish other people were
pleased with what I did as well, and
bought a disc or two. <Wink>
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take a lot of pride in everything
I do that involves creation. Even
in my day job as a design engineer,
I see everything I do as art and
try and put my stamp on it in
that fashion. |
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DS:
What are your favorite
moments on A Simile for Murder?
Josh/Saemskin:
The
track "Brought The Fire" is
some of my best work. The high-pitched
arp I designed on my Virus TI at the
end of the ASFM title track is also
another high point. I really enjoy composing
groovy elements like that.
DS:
A
few of the song titles are a bit cryptic,
such as "Ode to GG Vol. III (tended
to)". What do they all mean?
Josh/Saemskin:
The
OTGG series is a group of tracks created
in memory to the passing of my grandma.
The series is not finished, but you'll
see the first couple had a definitive
Native American undercurrent because
she was born on a Canadian Reservation.
These last few tracks I tried to pour
out as much distress as I am capable
of expressing. This latest track was
about a hospital visit where being 'tended
to' resulted in death. The title to
this particular track is a very cynical
one. The other tracks on the album are
exactly that, cryptic. I did not want
to be too specific about what they were
about so if a person feels that something
clicks for them, then yes -for them-
that is what the song is about. I sit
back and make vague situational commentary,
and the few lyrics I do write are more
of a streaming consciousness style.
I have always felt it's better to guide
the listener and let them draw their
own conclusions, because the experience
of allowing the listener to use their
imagination is a valuable one to me,
and part of the fun of listening to
music. Meaning is where you find it,
and things hold only the value you give
them.
DS:
The
Female voice on "Ode", who
is that? The voice on "soldiers
eye", is that you?
Josh/Saemskin:
I
called my sister Jessica and asked her
to write something about our grandma,
then come over when she's done so I
can record her reading it. That is me
on Soldiers eye, screaming my head off
at one point even.
DS:
Some
of A Simile for Murder feels like soundtrack
music. Was there a movie that inspired
you, or do you imagine a movie to go
along with this?
Josh/Saemskin:
A
movie, eh? I don't really find motivation
in movies; they don't provide that sort
of inspiration for me. If someone approached
me to make some music for a film I think
I would be terrified. Mostly because
whatever I did would never be good enough
to be broadcast in front of a major
audience. I'm picturing an ulcer in
that situation.
DS:
Then
what did inspire you on this CD - on
a more deep level? And what inspires
you to continue making music?
Josh/Saemskin:
I've
always wanted to do this. Who didn't
want to be Vince Neil as kid? The act
of creation has always been an inspiration
to me. Nearly every hobby I have entertained
in my life has involved creation in
one form or another. Making models,
building stomp boxes and rack mount
processors. I love it. Only this form
is the pinnacle of expression. The act
itself is a great inspiration; my problem
is that I have to continue having fun
with it instead of beating myself up
over every nuance. Live shows are another
source. After the Jesu and Isis show
I came home and sat up all night because
the bass guitar tone Jesu has designed
is really great. I love dirty bass,
and the newest Prodigy record is a source
of inspiration for me in that respect.
Putting myself out there, people noticing,
and the possibility of working with
other talented artists is another thing
I'm continually driving at.
DS:
Are
there any plans for live shows?
Josh/Saemskin:
Probably
not. I have no intentions of boring
the crap out of people by twiddling
a mouse in front of them. Were I able
to hook up with a couple of other folks
who could play real instruments, then
I could see it happening. Do you know
any guitarists that would want to work
with me?
DS:
What
is in the future for Saemskin?
Josh/Saemskin:
I
would most like to work with other artists.
Finding people who are interested and
have the time to do such a thing is
not easy though. When I say other artists
I mean more in the Chris Vrenna respect.
Singers, guitarists, etc. to make music
with. I am also branching out into other
genres as well. I have adopted another
pseudonym, which is going to be a Goa
Trance project named 'Eough'. Loosely
speaking, for lack of a better category.
Saemskin is also making some post rock
sounds. Keep your eyes peeled for a
video to be released soon in that vein.
I'll be releasing the OTGG remix disc
in the not too distant future which
features remixes by 3 amazing artists;
hEADaCHE, Celadon, and Ah Cama-Sotz.
Each remix is better than the original
so I hope it turns a few heads in that
respect. After that, Celadon and I have
been talking about collaboration between
us gents. He is very talented at sampling
and orchestrating drones, so it should
be a lot of fun to work with him again.
After that, I plan to finish working
on a conceptual double album I have
been playing with off and on for about
a year now. Terror Beats and Terror
Ambience. I have been talking with a
label about releasing this disc, and
they appear to be receptive, but we'll
see when the time comes if it will work
out.
DS:
Sounds
good, I can’t wait! I’ll
keep my ears open for the new material.
Thanks for your time.
Josh/Saemskin:
Thanks
my man. Keep your eyes open for a multimedia
remix EP in the next month or two, with
a video for the title track by HeadGearMedia.
For
More information on Saemskin and Josh
Conley:
Official
Saemskin Website
Saemskin
on Myspace
Saemskin's
DarkSonus Profile
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About the interviewer:
hEADaCHE
is the founder of the band CEOXiME,
long time member of the DarkSonus
community and remixer extraordinaire.
You can get more info on hEADaCHE
at the official CEOXiME website
located at:
http://ceoxime.com
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